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welcome to the skeptic zone the podcast

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hello and welcome to the skeptic zone

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episode 305 for the 24th of August 2014

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happy birthday nephew Rory Richardson's

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here with you from Sydney Australia well

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this week shows I am out and about sort

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of show it's a live sort of experience

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show you'll understand by the end of it

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because I take you behind the scenes a

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little bit of the mystery investigators

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my friend Ian Bryce and I were

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performing this week at the Australian

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Museum for school groups doing our

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mystery investigators show bed of nails

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water divining power balance optical

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illusions big shout out and thank you to

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Richard Wiseman who gave me permission

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to use one of his videos in the live

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mystery investigators show about

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perceptions thank you Richard Eyre much

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appreciated and the students really got

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a kick out of it and thank you once

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again to the Australian Museum for

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booking the mystery investigators and

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after that it's a week in science from

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the Royal Institution of Australia w WR

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ia us or go today you and thank you too

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Paul Willis dr. Paul Willis he gave a

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talk in Canberra during the week and he

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and my dear friend Lauren Cochrane the

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president of the Canberra skeptics took

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the ice bucket challenge good on him

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poured cold water all over themselves on

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video and earlier in the week my good

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friend and skeptics own reporter dr.

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Rachel Dunlop also took the ice bucket

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challenge then to round off the show

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it's a long series of interviews with

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Maynard Maynard i went to just last

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night of science had all sorts of

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general public and they have a stage

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show featuring featuring the singing

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and wow didn't the crowd loved his talk

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about going up into space and living on

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the space station what it's like to come

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fantastic fantastic however I was there

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at the request of Frankie Lee at the

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powerhouse museum to well entertain the

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did with the spoon bending and we did

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power balance sort of like a mini

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was there to do interviews and also take

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part in the show as well he's sort of

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the mystery investigator in training and

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we'll be doing some more live shows

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there in about a week's time so it may

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not church to all sorts of people at the

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big night of science at the powerhouse

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museum what a wonderful thing it was to

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what a what a great outreach program

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here in Sydney now a quick note from our

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friends in Melbourne i think i mentioned

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last week there's a dinner coming up

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with Lawrence Krauss Lawrence Krauss

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yeah dinner coming up dinner and a talk

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and it's almost sold out almost in fact

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as i'm recording this i believe there

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may be one or two tickets left now if

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you're in melbourne or you can be in

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melbourne on the twenty-ninth of august

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rush to vic skeptics wordpress com not

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only to find out more about the

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goings-on of the Victorian skeptics but

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to see if there are still tickets left

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for this dinner inquire try to get in

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see what they can do for you because the

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tickets our sales have to close on

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monday which is the day after this

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and you might just sneak in now a big

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shout out in a very big thank you to a

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lovely lady i met at the amazing meeting

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celestia ward and she was just one of

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the fun people who go to the amazing

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meeting tam in las vegas and I really

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didn't know where I didn't twig where I

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was too busy to comprehend what she

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or does for a living she's an artist and

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a particularly good artist at that

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particularly fine doing caricatures

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amongst other things and I was until I

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her artwork and i was so impressed that

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I begged her I begged her with offers of

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origami earrings and all sorts of things

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for her to do a caricature of me which

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she did and I was completely blown away

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it was fantastic it's on my facebook

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page if you're interested wow what a

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great caricature it is so I am pleased

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to promote what she does because she is

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obviously very talented and you can head

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to www had studio scom that's a numeral

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two two heads studios com through to

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check out what she does she lives in Las

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Vegas and she does caricatures by

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things like that and I can personally

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recommend her she um not only because

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caricature of me but in the other ones

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essence of people I think it's quite

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remarkable Thank You Celestia I really

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appreciate that and everybody else if

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you're looking for someone to do a

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caricature of you I can certainly

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recommend this fine artist and thank you

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also to spoon equine who I met at the

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amazing meeting another artist she drew

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a scene from the audio adventure solar

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flare and if you've heard so lovely you

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might remember the the part where the

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crew lands on the whoo class planet and

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we're all attacked by flying monkeys

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going on a frame on the wall thank you

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Spoony it's very nice of you and just

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before we get stuck into the skeptics

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and a big thank you to all those people

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around the world who have been helping

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subtitles for the vaccination chronicles

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arrives fantastic work people around the

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world and thank you to susan goreck for

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helping put all that activity together

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but that's enough from me right now I'm

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cupboard see if I can find some couscous

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it's time once again for the mystery

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science we do water divining we have a

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generators we have all the Australian

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to see so many students have come in to

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experience all this interesting science

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and to ask questions and soon a lot of

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the kids are trying out the static

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to it they anticipated too much the idea

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more time here we go all holding hands

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theatre at the theatre and when that

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on this side so in Bryce and I can set

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and of all the things I do in the

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skeptical realm I must keep a list one

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day I think the mystery investigators is

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probably one of the most satisfying it's

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a lot of fun it's good to perform for

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kids and after all these years I think a

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lot of students thousands I guess have

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investigations and they're learnt that

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there are skeptical groups out there so

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on with the show it's ian brush high and

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we're here in the stage area in the

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theater area we've set up the mr.

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investigation show the water divining

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test is all set up we've got the

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juggling balls ready the bed of nails is

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over there gee it's doing well for 11

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show and the students some students are

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good morning hey this is the mystery

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investigators oh okay do you know what

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did the show as you see no oh well there

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you are Kim bus well that's the sort of

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a date is the IMP it now all's well I

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they're filing in look at them all come

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in now we'd hate my kids what school you

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you can what school are you from open

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yours as well excellent well I better

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put this away now and get ready for the

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each show we have the bed of nails and

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we pick up the action where I've just

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carefully lowered myself down onto the

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bed of nails and Ian Bryce is about to

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one way to thank you

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ah

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alright will be everything that much so

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how is that possible how on earth can I

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lie on a bed of nails in hobby engine

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have Ian Stannard like your hands all

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that's a that's a meeting those of you

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didn't hear my weight was distributed

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months or almost all the nails so every

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individual nails only carrying a tiny

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living away and so I really couldn't be

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buncha ready what happened what would

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happen if they were saying five nights I

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would ask everybody not just you want to

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work unclassified off but that's just

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physics because it's my wife being

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distributed evenly amongst many males

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but for many years when we heard about

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males about the better balance it was

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just didn't make sense I'm computer

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scientific way until we discovered the

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denial

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closer together and you don't have to be

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in a special mystical tracks in there

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after five or six years ago any of that

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anybody can really learn mystery that

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scientist I welcome to a week in science

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from Arya's bringing you the sides you

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need to know with features like parking

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assist automated breaking and adaptive

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cruise control we're already well on our

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way to having driverless cars in fact

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manufacturers say that they'll be in

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prototypes from listen volvo Audi and

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Google use a variety of sensors mounted

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on the car to build a detailed picture

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of its surroundings one of the main

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sensors is a type of laser called

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lighter it sends out rapid pulses of non

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visible light and measures the time they

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take to bounce off objects and return

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because light moves at a constant speed

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we can then calculate the cars distance

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from that object and build a 3d image of

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its environment the data from later is

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combined with video and radar sensor

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information and is processed by an

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on-board computer that makes decisions

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about steering braking and acceleration

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this sophisticated programming requires

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the computer to self learn so that it

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can still choose the correct action when

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it encounters unexpected scenarios I can

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see the appeal of a driverless car

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allowing you to better use your

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commuting time and providing

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independence to people who couldn't

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otherwise drive plus they could save

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thousands of lives by removing human

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driver error which accounts for over

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ninety percent of crusher's they could

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also benefit the environment by reducing

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the number of cars on the road one

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vehicle could serve the whole family by

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driving itself between pickups and

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drop-offs or in a reimagined taxi

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service rather than owning a car at all

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you could lodge a transport request and

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whatever car is closest will pick you up

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smart braking and acceleration could

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potentially increase fuel efficiency by

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twenty-five percent and communication

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between cars will mean that road space

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is used better and commuting times

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become shorter but there are some

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concerns so let's take a look at the top

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four

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first our concerns about licensing and

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legal issues if your driver Lascar is in

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a crash who is liable viruses and

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malfunctions in the software are another

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worry if we can't have bug free internet

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browsers is it even possible to make a

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bug free car a third potential impact is

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that the technology will encourage urban

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sprawl with people tolerating long

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commutes when they're not actually

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driving and finally the idea of someone

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being able to remotely hack your car

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raises some scary safety and even

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terrorism concerns that's it for this

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week in science for more information on

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driverless cars go to the RAS website RI

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aus org dot a you follow us on twitter

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at rars and like us on Facebook I'm cure

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do you want to get in touch with nature

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without the fallacies come along to

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camping skeptically organized by the

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Brisbane skeptics society spend two

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nights at the tool burrow chalet in the

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picturesque ammonia mountain enjoy the

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company of fellow skeptics with bush

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walks barbecues and pseudoscience movie

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night along with a few drinks it's only

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sixty dollars for two nights September

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12 to the 14th places are strictly

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limited so go to Brisbane skeptic stud

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org for more details here's main art

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spooky action at the distance

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oh I'm surrounded by all these really

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old inventions and all these ancient

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artifacts and for once I'm not at home

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but here's an ancient artifact for you

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boys and girls out there it's Richard

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Saunders yeah I knew that line was

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coming Maynard we are we're surrounded

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by oh here's a it's not a rickshaw what

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is it it's a young oh this is one of the

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chairs that I believe Dick Smith used to

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get other various members of the

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skeptics Australia to carry a room

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around it we did we get sedan share this

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is you'd get in people would lift you

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and carry you around the dick smith

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actually circumnavigated the world in

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this sedan chair the four people who are

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carrying him unfortunately no one can

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remember then I am now we're in the

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talks are going on sort of in the other

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room you can probably hear them in the

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background note that ever ah Chris Chris

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Hadfield is there thank you I just

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trying to think he was looking at

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canadian national of course and i would

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love to ask him if I got a chance that

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i'm told that you're not really nasty

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naught until you've done a number two in

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a space toilet in space I'd probably

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have to agree with your main I that then

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you know it yeah then you know yeah okay

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yep now I've done everything you'd say

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after done that because it's not easy in

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zero gravity it easy but you're you're

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um you're the cub mystery investigators

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a nightmare and you're in training

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that's right I'm in training helping you

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at all people about the the ideomotor

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effect i believe is one of the things

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we're going to be talking about I

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thought it was the idiot motor effect

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and I had my old 1963 Volkswagen outside

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but that's completely things different

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idiot now you're going to be helping me

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with a water divining test the Power

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Balance demonstrations tonight and a bit

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of spoon bending at look and I'm going

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to be talking to a few people about the

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wisdom of Erich von Daniken as well I

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thought we might get a bit of really

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good alternative in there which is that

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what we're gonna be game about now we

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have to fill up the show somehow may not

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really and I had this I asked because

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all the scientists have got here like

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for example this science is here little

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area with all the sciences are going to

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sit and chat to people this is dr. olga

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Shimoni Chancellor postdoc your

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Chancellor's postdoctoral research

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fellow at UTS and you can ask her about

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nanotechnology and nano bots and as

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skeptics and listeners may remember Oh

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some months ago maybe almost a year ago

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I interviewed dr. Emma Johnston

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professor Emma Johnson

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university of new south wales marine

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ecologist XO toxicologist and TV

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presenter yeah i visited her at her

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research facility done on sydney harbour

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and we had a great interview down there

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so she's going to be here later on all

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these tables are set up around us Maino

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they're all got names on them a famous

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scientists with members of the public

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can come and chat to this is a great

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thing that the Powerhouse Museum of put

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on tonight well I was gonna get one to a

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table that said ask may not about

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anything because I won't know people go

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cuz I'll make stuff up that's the thing

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they should have a fake scientists and

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people could have tell which guy isn't

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that be me oh yes I believe that would

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be the square root of pie hang on a

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minute wait a minute tell me look it

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says UTS science here's a really weird

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son doctor doctor re right Rachel done

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dr. Rachel Dunlop oh that's got to be a

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for outlook that effect they'd odd

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this this is a put on this is a put-on

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dr. Rachel Dunlop I've directed

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post-doctorate research fellow mentions

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nothing about drinking rachel is also

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interested in the pseudoscience claims

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of anti-vaccination movement Rachel be

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here dr. Rachel be here to answer

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questions from the public tonight isn't

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that great yeah I got a few questions

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for like how come she didn't pay last

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months rent that's a good question

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that's right but it is all very exciting

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where washy on Tuesday night I got

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questions I got lots for her I wonder if

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she can see those questions may not mean

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well i hope i can do well because she

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normally helps you out here so tonight

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the part of dr. rate she will be played

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by Manor it's true she's on Judy's night

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she can't be doing a mystery

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investigators she's got her duties here

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at the table at the science table so

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you're going to have to put on a dress

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and be dr. Reggie tonight I pretty good

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i haven't got the legs but I'll give it

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a go tonight we'll be special oh it's

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the singing s or not can hear that

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we

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let's pop our heads around the corner

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and listen to the senior

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I

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Chris Hadfield do his talk what's your

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name little boy around segev hey haven't

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you got something to do with Australian

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skeptics I did yeah I think so because

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this shirt seems to skeptics honest I

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think so yeah I've heard of the

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organization how did you find Chris head

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fields talk pretty inspiring wasn't it

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he was it was I was awestruck I was just

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I mean it's not about the person it's

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just the way he talked that his attitude

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is just so inspirational that I spend i

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spent half my time through the talk with

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goosebumps and in with tears in my eyes

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he's just again it's not about being an

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astronaut it's not about being the

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commander as patient it's about he's

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attitude to following your dreams and to

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get it and not just about reaching the

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the end result what it is that you want

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to do but also why for this bein okay

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it's also about for the journey on your

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way to that goal what I liked was he

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said yes you think you might get there

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at some time but at the moment enjoy the

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time you're in enjoy what you're doing

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today enjoy going to the library enjoy

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the sunshine enjoy the little things on

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your way to perhaps going to where you

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might want to go it wasn't again it's

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not just about enjoying it's about it I

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think it's that combination of seeing

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your targets yes knowing that what

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you're doing is getting you to that

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target but that target is I think you

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say maybe one day I will get there so it

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was about yes enjoy what you're doing

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today and then have that vision have

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00:25:24,890 --> 00:25:20,820
that goal in front of you at all times I

544
00:25:26,990 --> 00:25:24,900
think that's fantastic the we're just

545
00:25:28,490 --> 00:25:27,000
touching the velvet rope now and when

546
00:25:29,810 --> 00:25:28,500
you touch the velvet robe of course you

547
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:29,820
meet a lot of people and who've we got

548
00:25:35,570 --> 00:25:32,970
here hi jack Isla Bureau I'm an

549
00:25:38,660 --> 00:25:35,580
ambassador for Space Camp USA and also

550
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:38,670
an ambassador for Space Camp turkey this

551
00:25:43,130 --> 00:25:40,890
year I've been made the honeywell

552
00:25:45,470 --> 00:25:43,140
international ambassador for their

553
00:25:47,690 --> 00:25:45,480
educator at space Academy program in

554
00:25:48,980 --> 00:25:47,700
Huntsville Alabama and how many people

555
00:25:51,410 --> 00:25:48,990
from Australia are going to space camp

556
00:25:53,690 --> 00:25:51,420
this year this year I'm taking a group

557
00:25:55,910 --> 00:25:53,700
of 31 high school students and a few

558
00:25:58,100 --> 00:25:55,920
adults and a couple of teachers and we

559
00:25:59,660 --> 00:25:58,110
leave on the twenty-fifth September it

560
00:26:03,260 --> 00:25:59,670
was a rough idea what goes on a space

561
00:26:04,790 --> 00:26:03,270
cap space camp is about 70 simulators

562
00:26:07,670 --> 00:26:04,800
that simulate different astronaut

563
00:26:10,010 --> 00:26:07,680
activities you do missions you're in

564
00:26:12,620 --> 00:26:10,020
terms of 16 you do sir Bauer weightless

565
00:26:14,990 --> 00:26:12,630
environment construction you have NASA

566
00:26:17,030 --> 00:26:15,000
astronauts come and have a talk so it's

567
00:26:20,180 --> 00:26:17,040
basically six days of astronaut training

568
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:20,190
for everyone from 92 99 but I focus on

569
00:26:24,110 --> 00:26:22,530
young children and young high school

570
00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:24,120
what's your favorite activity do they

571
00:26:26,930 --> 00:26:25,200
have that had the moment they have the

572
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:26,940
really deep pool where they do the stuff

573
00:26:30,740 --> 00:26:28,650
in the deep pool what's that like yeah

574
00:26:32,570 --> 00:26:30,750
well the scoop is great you do get

575
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:32,580
pyramid construction and stuff on the

576
00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:34,290
bottom of the scuba tank but I think my

577
00:26:38,420 --> 00:26:36,720
favorite activity was either climbing

578
00:26:40,220 --> 00:26:38,430
the 50-foot rock wall and jumping off

579
00:26:42,140 --> 00:26:40,230
with a zip line on your back or climbing

580
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:42,150
the 38-foot pamper Pole or leaping off

581
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:44,250
like Superman but I'm terrified of

582
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:46,050
heights oh I kind of don't get those

583
00:26:51,140 --> 00:26:48,930
down perfectly but I think truly it's

584
00:26:54,140 --> 00:26:51,150
just an awesome place I love going there

585
00:26:55,700 --> 00:26:54,150
at some I would highly recommend it to

586
00:26:58,250 --> 00:26:55,710
everyone they even have visually

587
00:27:00,110 --> 00:26:58,260
impaired camp for blind children so

588
00:27:02,180 --> 00:27:00,120
three times a year they close the camp

589
00:27:05,510 --> 00:27:02,190
and they do Braille and I put the camp

590
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:05,520
out in Braille so everybody if you have

591
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:07,440
a dream if you want to go to Space Camp

592
00:27:12,110 --> 00:27:10,080
you should go and Kara dougherty from

593
00:27:14,090 --> 00:27:12,120
here is listed in the walk top one I

594
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:14,100
think its first or second top places

595
00:27:18,260 --> 00:27:16,250
that she wants to be sit on the planet

596
00:27:20,330 --> 00:27:18,270
what's that website if you want to get a

597
00:27:22,220 --> 00:27:20,340
look at it serious like that and website

598
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:22,230
is easy Space Camp doc home not that

599
00:27:26,930 --> 00:27:24,210
easy yeah that's very easy but also too

600
00:27:28,490 --> 00:27:26,940
I mean by your program if you want to

601
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:28,500
get in contact with me I'll give these

602
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:30,450
guys the card and you want to talk about

603
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:32,610
it it's great it's the most awesome

604
00:27:36,790 --> 00:27:34,170
thing I've ever done in my life and

605
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:36,800
that's been ten times that

606
00:27:40,870 --> 00:27:38,570
and Jackie just a quick question what is

607
00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:40,880
your favorite space movie or space TV

608
00:27:44,650 --> 00:27:43,370
show come on what's the only alike it

609
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:44,660
doesn't have to be accurate just one

610
00:27:48,670 --> 00:27:46,610
that's your favorite actually my

611
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:48,680
favorite I just saw a way to remember a

612
00:27:53,050 --> 00:27:50,930
straight boy you know danger and also I

613
00:27:55,270 --> 00:27:53,060
love me who doesn't want rocket in their

614
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:55,280
boots Oh exactly in a zip zip zip up the

615
00:28:01,180 --> 00:27:57,770
cave awesome stuff you know it's just

616
00:28:03,070 --> 00:28:01,190
great yeah thank you thanks guys yes

617
00:28:04,390 --> 00:28:03,080
it's science week science science

618
00:28:06,580 --> 00:28:04,400
science and with the powerhouse museum

619
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:06,590
and of course when you're talking about

620
00:28:10,420 --> 00:28:07,970
science where'd you find in there

621
00:28:13,060 --> 00:28:10,430
scientists like dr. Rachel Dunlop but at

622
00:28:14,590 --> 00:28:13,070
the bloody bar how are you hello Maynard

623
00:28:16,420 --> 00:28:14,600
I'm good thank you for your self a big

624
00:28:18,370 --> 00:28:16,430
bottle of aspartame there yes I have

625
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:18,380
it's gonna give me disease or something

626
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:20,330
I don't know now you can you get a

627
00:28:23,020 --> 00:28:21,530
little table over there we're gonna be

628
00:28:24,670 --> 00:28:23,030
talking to people are you ready for

629
00:28:27,460 --> 00:28:24,680
questions like what were you doing out

630
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:27,470
so late on Tuesday night any questions

631
00:28:31,810 --> 00:28:29,090
I'll take any questions may know where

632
00:28:33,370 --> 00:28:31,820
was last month's rent oh you have to

633
00:28:34,570 --> 00:28:33,380
come and ask me join the key take a

634
00:28:36,610 --> 00:28:34,580
number and I'll answer all those

635
00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:36,620
questions for you things she says that

636
00:28:40,900 --> 00:28:39,110
such so often it is this time of night

637
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:40,910
on a set day usually it's across the

638
00:28:44,620 --> 00:28:42,890
road superb object yeah join the queue

639
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:44,630
tracking number it's like that kind of

640
00:28:48,430 --> 00:28:47,210
stuff and tell me what do people really

641
00:28:50,470 --> 00:28:48,440
want to know when they talk to you about

642
00:28:52,420 --> 00:28:50,480
your chosen field you know I have no

643
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:52,430
idea i've never done this before and

644
00:28:56,260 --> 00:28:54,050
actually i was asked to do it and i

645
00:28:59,260 --> 00:28:56,270
didn't realize that i'd be sitting down

646
00:29:01,300 --> 00:28:59,270
at a table like a speed date so we

647
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:01,310
actually have a chair across from me you

648
00:29:04,030 --> 00:29:02,210
thought it would be like the pleasure

649
00:29:05,620 --> 00:29:04,040
chest where there's a wall between and

650
00:29:08,010 --> 00:29:05,630
the people and there's a small hole and

651
00:29:10,630 --> 00:29:08,020
people go hello dr. 18 yes exactly

652
00:29:12,820 --> 00:29:10,640
mainul it's nothing like that it's not

653
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:12,830
at all know so I have no idea what to

654
00:29:18,090 --> 00:29:15,110
expect but I think I'm gonna warm up I'm

655
00:29:20,530 --> 00:29:18,100
gonna go ask her about last Tuesday not

656
00:29:22,420 --> 00:29:20,540
you can do that mean that I can handle

657
00:29:24,010 --> 00:29:22,430
it and ago say congratulations on the

658
00:29:26,380 --> 00:29:24,020
ice bucket challenge you tip the bucket

659
00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:26,390
of ice over yourself and you called me

660
00:29:31,810 --> 00:29:29,510
out and who else dr. Paul Willis who has

661
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:31,820
responded in fact I responded most bank

662
00:29:36,940 --> 00:29:34,730
know I've had I've had the bucket tipped

663
00:29:38,770 --> 00:29:36,950
over me enough lately if anyone knows

664
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:38,780
the history but I can't go into it but I

665
00:29:42,460 --> 00:29:40,250
tell you what I will do I am going to

666
00:29:44,140 --> 00:29:42,470
donate some money to my charity which is

667
00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:44,150
the Bobby Goldsmith foundation well good

668
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:45,710
for you may know but you know what i was

669
00:29:48,550 --> 00:29:47,330
thinking of when I nominated you I was

670
00:29:50,620 --> 00:29:48,560
thinking of you on the chocolate wheel

671
00:29:52,210 --> 00:29:50,630
in your gold hot pants and I was

672
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:52,220
thinking if someone could throw I thank

673
00:29:56,950 --> 00:29:54,650
you like it was spinning around now if

674
00:29:59,350 --> 00:29:56,960
people look up Maynard's we love must be

675
00:30:02,680 --> 00:29:59,360
on YouTube they will see me doing that

676
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:02,690
unfortunately i donated the i'm glad you

677
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:04,850
brought this up i donated Maynard's

678
00:30:08,830 --> 00:30:06,770
Wheeler will speak to a mistress at the

679
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:08,840
cross mistress anna i believe how

680
00:30:12,730 --> 00:30:11,090
quickly and i don't know if you're aware

681
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:12,740
of the bondage device known as the

682
00:30:17,140 --> 00:30:15,530
spanish wheel no I'm not my god well she

683
00:30:18,940 --> 00:30:17,150
turned it into a Spanish wheel which is

684
00:30:20,740 --> 00:30:18,950
basically you can get strapped to it and

685
00:30:22,270 --> 00:30:20,750
get spun around in a bondage kind of way

686
00:30:23,770 --> 00:30:22,280
so it used to be all colorful and fluro

687
00:30:25,630 --> 00:30:23,780
now it's all black and dark and in a

688
00:30:27,850 --> 00:30:25,640
dungeon somewhere Kings Cross see

689
00:30:29,770 --> 00:30:27,860
mistress anna so i should have nominated

690
00:30:32,530 --> 00:30:29,780
mistress anna then more than ice bucket

691
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:32,540
challenge yeah poor mistress tokyo

692
00:30:35,740 --> 00:30:34,130
actually because I'm bit of a fan of her

693
00:30:36,820 --> 00:30:35,750
work as well right i'm not familiar with

694
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:36,830
her work but i trust your

695
00:30:40,780 --> 00:30:39,050
recommendations may not ok a bit look at

696
00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:40,790
so i will give i will donate some money

697
00:30:43,750 --> 00:30:42,080
and i will make sure that i get a

698
00:30:44,860 --> 00:30:43,760
receipt and take a photograph of it so

699
00:30:46,270 --> 00:30:44,870
we now have actually given some money

700
00:30:48,250 --> 00:30:46,280
into the Bobby Goldsmith foundation we

701
00:30:50,260 --> 00:30:48,260
trust you mean aren't we trust you yeah

702
00:30:51,310 --> 00:30:50,270
look and so what are you hoping to tell

703
00:30:53,380 --> 00:30:51,320
people what are you trying to get across

704
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:53,390
how do you excite people about science

705
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:56,090
well I am actually since you mentioned

706
00:30:59,020 --> 00:30:57,290
that ice bucket challenge i have my

707
00:31:00,580 --> 00:30:59,030
video tonight so i'll be playing that so

708
00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:00,590
people can laugh at me getting drenched

709
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:03,440
and um I mean our research is really

710
00:31:08,110 --> 00:31:05,330
fascinating I don't really have to sex

711
00:31:11,260 --> 00:31:08,120
it up because it's about bats and algae

712
00:31:13,330 --> 00:31:11,270
and birds and so it's just really

713
00:31:16,330 --> 00:31:13,340
interesting on its own i think ok such a

714
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:16,340
great story what's got it absolutely has

715
00:31:20,140 --> 00:31:18,050
no relationship whatsoever to ancient

716
00:31:21,850 --> 00:31:20,150
astronauts or you know ancient aliens so

717
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:21,860
I mean help you haven't got the guy with

718
00:31:25,570 --> 00:31:24,050
the big hair they're helping it I know I

719
00:31:26,770 --> 00:31:25,580
know you're always asking me this

720
00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:26,780
question and you're always trying to

721
00:31:31,930 --> 00:31:29,360
find a link between ancient aliens on

722
00:31:34,390 --> 00:31:31,940
the history channel box turtle I have

723
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:34,400
not pursued that Avenue yet but yep it's

724
00:31:37,690 --> 00:31:36,170
it's a very good suggestion and I might

725
00:31:39,670 --> 00:31:37,700
write a grant for it and then maybe we

726
00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:39,680
can investigate it remember that i think

727
00:31:43,090 --> 00:31:40,880
was michael shermer said that the

728
00:31:46,030 --> 00:31:43,100
paranormal can be a gateway drug to

729
00:31:47,710 --> 00:31:46,040
actual science so if there is someone

730
00:31:49,990 --> 00:31:47,720
that's interested in the Augie boogie on

731
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:50,000
the Wu they could perhaps get into your

732
00:31:52,690 --> 00:31:51,530
field through that but your field Billy

733
00:31:54,100 --> 00:31:52,700
hasn't got a lot of that in it it's

734
00:31:55,139 --> 00:31:54,110
actually just got straight up science

735
00:31:59,969 --> 00:31:55,149
yeah

736
00:32:01,409 --> 00:31:59,979
oh I guess there's a bit of superstition

737
00:32:03,209 --> 00:32:01,419
in there and things like that I don't

738
00:32:04,289 --> 00:32:03,219
know I the one that one really got me is

739
00:32:06,269 --> 00:32:04,299
when you went to the middle of the

740
00:32:07,349 --> 00:32:06,279
desert and found that there was algae in

741
00:32:10,859 --> 00:32:07,359
the desert if you just poured some water

742
00:32:13,229 --> 00:32:10,869
yeah well that's the thing algae is 3.5

743
00:32:15,539 --> 00:32:13,239
billion years old as a species so it's

744
00:32:18,779 --> 00:32:15,549
evolved to grow just about anywhere yeah

745
00:32:20,669 --> 00:32:18,789
but did it ever win logi no I don't

746
00:32:24,060 --> 00:32:20,679
think it's ever won a low game for the

747
00:32:25,619 --> 00:32:24,070
best variety show algae no never you're

748
00:32:27,450 --> 00:32:25,629
right it's pretty crap isn't it really

749
00:32:29,009 --> 00:32:27,460
when you think about it look I was I was

750
00:32:32,009 --> 00:32:29,019
watching watching some alternative

751
00:32:33,930 --> 00:32:32,019
videos on on YouTube that said that

752
00:32:35,489 --> 00:32:33,940
there's no link between primates and man

753
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:35,499
the missing link is still there can you

754
00:32:39,570 --> 00:32:37,450
be isn't there what do you like on the

755
00:32:41,459 --> 00:32:39,580
evolutionary science oh I'm not it's not

756
00:32:43,169 --> 00:32:41,469
my area of expertise Maynard I just I

757
00:32:44,669 --> 00:32:43,179
listen to the expert so I think this is

758
00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:44,679
a good piece of advice for everyone

759
00:32:50,249 --> 00:32:47,529
listening I'm done listening now take

760
00:32:53,159 --> 00:32:50,259
the advice of experts and take the

761
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:53,169
advice of the consensus from experts so

762
00:32:57,389 --> 00:32:55,450
even within that expert community there

763
00:32:59,279 --> 00:32:57,399
might be one or two people that have

764
00:33:01,169 --> 00:32:59,289
different ideas but it's best to rely on

765
00:33:03,539 --> 00:33:01,179
the consensus and the consensus says

766
00:33:05,909 --> 00:33:03,549
that we are evolved from primates so I

767
00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:05,919
reckon they're probably right like I

768
00:33:09,899 --> 00:33:07,089
hate it when you beat me in an argument

769
00:33:11,609 --> 00:33:09,909
okay what about stuff that's on the edge

770
00:33:13,289 --> 00:33:11,619
of science stuff that's like history

771
00:33:15,239 --> 00:33:13,299
that has a lot of opinion in it and has

772
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:15,249
the weight of various groups under there

773
00:33:18,690 --> 00:33:16,809
how do you work that one out yeah well

774
00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:18,700
see that's different because people's

775
00:33:23,219 --> 00:33:20,409
opinions are worthy of debate and a

776
00:33:25,409 --> 00:33:23,229
worthy of different opinions that can be

777
00:33:28,289 --> 00:33:25,419
debated but when it comes to evidence

778
00:33:30,869 --> 00:33:28,299
and science and facts there's no debate

779
00:33:32,279 --> 00:33:30,879
around evidence you know 2+2 is 4 we can

780
00:33:34,739 --> 00:33:32,289
have a debate that it's five but it's

781
00:33:36,329 --> 00:33:34,749
just simply not so we must rely on facts

782
00:33:38,579 --> 00:33:36,339
and evidence when it comes to science

783
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:38,589
what do you like it maths by the way dr.

784
00:33:41,489 --> 00:33:40,330
H oh I've asked you a lot of questions

785
00:33:43,259 --> 00:33:41,499
and believe you me lessons we have

786
00:33:44,339 --> 00:33:43,269
discussed a lot I've never actually

787
00:33:45,930 --> 00:33:44,349
asked you what do you like at

788
00:33:48,810 --> 00:33:45,940
mathematics because in your field is

789
00:33:51,959 --> 00:33:48,820
that necessarily required it is required

790
00:33:54,839 --> 00:33:51,969
because I do calculations every day and

791
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:54,849
I'm unfortunately not very good at maths

792
00:34:00,149 --> 00:33:58,210
main art I love math though and I wish

793
00:34:02,339 --> 00:34:00,159
I'd proceed it further but I just wasn't

794
00:34:03,719 --> 00:34:02,349
very good at it but yes you do need math

795
00:34:05,310 --> 00:34:03,729
since I it's not as much in biology

796
00:34:07,330 --> 00:34:05,320
which is what I do if you're doing

797
00:34:09,339 --> 00:34:07,340
physics for example you know

798
00:34:11,020 --> 00:34:09,349
matix to me is just really hard maths

799
00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:11,030
get under the table yeah basically well

800
00:34:14,980 --> 00:34:12,560
it's applied maths too isn't it you know

801
00:34:18,129 --> 00:34:14,990
how would you fit this we love what we

802
00:34:19,839 --> 00:34:18,139
through this doorway if it's too big and

803
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:19,849
you can write an equation and work it

804
00:34:22,389 --> 00:34:21,169
out and you got it and you can fit in a

805
00:34:25,240 --> 00:34:22,399
double-car garage have a look at that

806
00:34:26,950 --> 00:34:25,250
main adds a wheel of wispy on um it

807
00:34:28,659 --> 00:34:26,960
maynards wheel I think it's on YouTube

808
00:34:29,770 --> 00:34:28,669
there I'm going around in the over suit

809
00:34:31,419 --> 00:34:29,780
in the bongos and with the monkey

810
00:34:33,820 --> 00:34:31,429
underpants monkey Underpants very

811
00:34:35,740 --> 00:34:33,830
impressive now what do you know what are

812
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:35,750
the rates of like women and girls

813
00:34:38,859 --> 00:34:37,609
getting into science at the moment is it

814
00:34:40,629 --> 00:34:38,869
pretty much even at the moment that we

815
00:34:43,060 --> 00:34:40,639
had a drop-off or was it increase what's

816
00:34:45,700 --> 00:34:43,070
it like no it's actually pretty even and

817
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:45,710
in fact in the biological sciences it's

818
00:34:49,990 --> 00:34:48,050
weighted more towards females in the

819
00:34:52,270 --> 00:34:50,000
early stages of Korea and also

820
00:34:53,740 --> 00:34:52,280
undergraduate but as people progress to

821
00:34:56,109 --> 00:34:53,750
their careers women drop off

822
00:34:59,920 --> 00:34:56,119
significantly so this is a big problem

823
00:35:01,270 --> 00:34:59,930
which policy makers and leaders now

824
00:35:03,430 --> 00:35:01,280
field have been trying to address for a

825
00:35:05,980 --> 00:35:03,440
number of years is how to maintain and

826
00:35:07,450 --> 00:35:05,990
keep women in the field of science now

827
00:35:09,310 --> 00:35:07,460
why do they drop off is because they see

828
00:35:11,260 --> 00:35:09,320
the earning potential isn't there they

829
00:35:13,329 --> 00:35:11,270
go and do something else they they get

830
00:35:15,579 --> 00:35:13,339
married or was it well there are various

831
00:35:18,310 --> 00:35:15,589
reasons one is of course family gets in

832
00:35:20,410 --> 00:35:18,320
the way but also women for some reason

833
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:20,420
tend not to apply for as many grants as

834
00:35:24,579 --> 00:35:22,970
men even though the evidence shows that

835
00:35:26,410 --> 00:35:24,589
when they do apply there just as likely

836
00:35:29,470 --> 00:35:26,420
to get awarded the grants in most cases

837
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:29,480
so for some reason they just sort of get

838
00:35:33,820 --> 00:35:31,570
pushed out and left to the sidelines and

839
00:35:35,710 --> 00:35:33,830
it's a real big problem and people are

840
00:35:37,690 --> 00:35:35,720
trying to address it at the moment well

841
00:35:41,020 --> 00:35:37,700
because every woman i know is smarter

842
00:35:44,349 --> 00:35:41,030
than me hahaha really how many women do

843
00:35:46,660 --> 00:35:44,359
you know just me the air goes a bit but

844
00:35:48,579 --> 00:35:46,670
Gideon grant is really hard I mean even

845
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:48,589
in the arts I mean the arts is really

846
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:49,490
hard cuz you got to pretend you're

847
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:50,510
something you gotta pretend you got an

848
00:35:53,829 --> 00:35:52,970
act for start so i guess in science

849
00:35:55,210 --> 00:35:53,839
that's what you're doing is all you

850
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:55,220
you're pretending you've got an act or

851
00:35:59,589 --> 00:35:57,890
that be a scientific fact or i guess you

852
00:36:01,839 --> 00:35:59,599
know you've got one in science now well

853
00:36:03,550 --> 00:36:01,849
you you tend to know you've got

854
00:36:07,060 --> 00:36:03,560
something then you apply for a grant

855
00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:07,070
based on that that small idea and you

856
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:09,440
apply for money to explore it further so

857
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:11,210
it's pretty much as the same as an

858
00:36:15,940 --> 00:36:13,490
australian council grant really isn't

859
00:36:18,130 --> 00:36:15,950
really probably you know you're hard to

860
00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:18,140
get who's very competitive and very

861
00:36:21,870 --> 00:36:20,110
disheartening when you don't get them

862
00:36:23,130 --> 00:36:21,880
something that we used to have when I

863
00:36:24,450 --> 00:36:23,140
was in the cast net club when we did get

864
00:36:26,130 --> 00:36:24,460
australian council grants when that

865
00:36:27,210 --> 00:36:26,140
existed is the person that ran the

866
00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:27,220
ground would come and check out what

867
00:36:31,470 --> 00:36:29,680
we're doing and we all had to like being

868
00:36:32,970 --> 00:36:31,480
our best behavior does that happen when

869
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:32,980
the ground people come around check you

870
00:36:36,690 --> 00:36:34,570
what he did you wear a wider look that

871
00:36:38,970 --> 00:36:36,700
let go than usual what do you do and so

872
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:38,980
now legs instead of on our heads mane

873
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:42,250
are that's what we do no we do we don't

874
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:43,450
actually have them come and check on us

875
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:45,760
but we do have to write reports over a

876
00:36:49,650 --> 00:36:47,770
period of time to demonstrate that we're

877
00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:49,660
not just faffing about in a wool of

878
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:51,760
whoops be autumn oh that's a thing when

879
00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:52,930
you're doing an arts grant you can

880
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:54,640
fathom it and that's about that's the

881
00:36:58,410 --> 00:36:56,530
whole idea yeah exactly i suppose so but

882
00:37:00,270 --> 00:36:58,420
that's not the aim in science is not to

883
00:37:01,410 --> 00:37:00,280
faff about really what i'm asking

884
00:37:05,490 --> 00:37:01,420
everyone here today what is your

885
00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:05,500
favorite space TV show or movie to do a

886
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:06,910
space since we've got a space-themed

887
00:37:10,290 --> 00:37:08,170
here as science weekly what does your

888
00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:10,300
I've mentioned darkstar as being one of

889
00:37:13,310 --> 00:37:11,680
my favorite movies because it's a bit of

890
00:37:15,810 --> 00:37:13,320
an analog of the Vietnam experience

891
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:15,820
quirk is a good TV show I thought that

892
00:37:20,820 --> 00:37:18,730
was pretty good as well I like beyond

893
00:37:23,970 --> 00:37:20,830
the shadow of the moon it's a

894
00:37:26,340 --> 00:37:23,980
documentary about the trip to the moon

895
00:37:28,290 --> 00:37:26,350
and the moon landings and it's I can't

896
00:37:29,970 --> 00:37:28,300
remember if Frank Zappa's son made it or

897
00:37:31,620 --> 00:37:29,980
something well that's cool I don't I

898
00:37:33,420 --> 00:37:31,630
don't remember but it's just a beautiful

899
00:37:35,010 --> 00:37:33,430
documentary and interviews all the

900
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:35,020
astronauts and talks to them about their

901
00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:37,170
experiences and also interestingly

902
00:37:41,130 --> 00:37:39,520
delves into the fact that some of them

903
00:37:42,570 --> 00:37:41,140
came back and became quite religious

904
00:37:45,090 --> 00:37:42,580
because they found the experience so

905
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:45,100
overwhelming and then it's the famous

906
00:37:48,180 --> 00:37:46,690
movie where they talk about just putting

907
00:37:49,950 --> 00:37:48,190
your thumb up to earth when you're

908
00:37:52,830 --> 00:37:49,960
standing on the moon and everything you

909
00:37:55,140 --> 00:37:52,840
know disappears in a second and how

910
00:37:58,170 --> 00:37:55,150
overwhelming that was for them but I

911
00:38:00,720 --> 00:37:58,180
also liked the dish is really in a dish

912
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:00,730
it's a great film about space and muninn

913
00:38:05,340 --> 00:38:03,850
and space travel here I hope you have a

914
00:38:07,230 --> 00:38:05,350
good night tonight getting great

915
00:38:08,670 --> 00:38:07,240
questions I hope no one stumps you won't

916
00:38:11,190 --> 00:38:08,680
really be annoying if some like 12 your

917
00:38:12,660 --> 00:38:11,200
kid cameras God kid comes up and gas and

918
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:12,670
have you got the equation to something

919
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:14,650
you'll get a no little boy I don't and

920
00:38:18,990 --> 00:38:17,170
little boys gonna go hmm well that could

921
00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:19,000
probably happen may not because I'm a

922
00:38:22,770 --> 00:38:20,320
scientist therefore I don't know

923
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:22,780
everything we're trying that men's a

924
00:38:26,970 --> 00:38:24,730
scientist is he yes what kind of

925
00:38:28,620 --> 00:38:26,980
scientist is he well look I've had his

926
00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:28,630
argument a few people a lot of people

927
00:38:32,370 --> 00:38:29,920
claim the Batman is in fact a

928
00:38:33,540 --> 00:38:32,380
technologist and sure yes he is but he's

929
00:38:35,130 --> 00:38:33,550
also a scientist

930
00:38:37,110 --> 00:38:35,140
if anyone has seen Adam West he's in the

931
00:38:38,220 --> 00:38:37,120
Batcave he's always doing he's must must

932
00:38:39,990 --> 00:38:38,230
have something in chemistry because he's

933
00:38:41,490 --> 00:38:40,000
mucked around in chemistry and he must

934
00:38:43,530 --> 00:38:41,500
have maybe he's got a degree in crime or

935
00:38:45,690 --> 00:38:43,540
so now that the green crime google crime

936
00:38:47,550 --> 00:38:45,700
fighting crime fighting I don't know and

937
00:38:49,380 --> 00:38:47,560
I rennes exceed have to have a degree in

938
00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:49,390
forensics it's not my area of expertise

939
00:38:53,250 --> 00:38:51,760
Batman's occupation or qualifications to

940
00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:53,260
main outside prefer i prefer not to

941
00:39:00,180 --> 00:38:57,280
comment in this situation oh look let's

942
00:39:03,660 --> 00:39:00,190
reveal now somebody tell myself look at

943
00:39:05,550 --> 00:39:03,670
that ah fan fantastic Scott look it's

944
00:39:07,890 --> 00:39:05,560
William Shatner William Shatner no

945
00:39:09,540 --> 00:39:07,900
William Shatner's done as more for

946
00:39:10,830 --> 00:39:09,550
science than I ever have but tell me so

947
00:39:11,940 --> 00:39:10,840
what's your degree and who are you and

948
00:39:14,370 --> 00:39:11,950
what are you doing here as part of

949
00:39:16,290 --> 00:39:14,380
science work I'll well I am here

950
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:16,300
representing edster means we're a

951
00:39:20,220 --> 00:39:18,610
sponsor of this event since we do which

952
00:39:22,740 --> 00:39:20,230
stands for the Australian nuclear

953
00:39:25,050 --> 00:39:22,750
science technology organisation so we're

954
00:39:27,180 --> 00:39:25,060
here just to basically raise awareness

955
00:39:29,370 --> 00:39:27,190
of what we're doing in some we've got an

956
00:39:32,490 --> 00:39:29,380
activity here which is a science lab so

957
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:32,500
as the night goes on you can grab a lab

958
00:39:37,710 --> 00:39:35,440
coat and jump into our Y 11 you'll get a

959
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:37,720
strip of photos that you can take home

960
00:39:40,650 --> 00:39:39,490
as a bit of a moment ocean actually do

961
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:40,660
that a bit later and what's your degree

962
00:39:46,620 --> 00:39:43,570
I have a degree in the very noble

963
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:46,630
science of marketing get out hence a

964
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:50,710
science lab look I reckon marketing can

965
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:53,410
be as difficult as like men finding it

966
00:39:58,260 --> 00:39:55,570
amira conium from time to time but yeah

967
00:40:00,420 --> 00:39:58,270
well that's true it's true yes it can be

968
00:40:02,250 --> 00:40:00,430
very very easy or can be extremely

969
00:40:03,810 --> 00:40:02,260
difficult a little bit why you want to

970
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:03,820
look at it well so so you can feel tough

971
00:40:07,740 --> 00:40:05,170
questions like how's that thorium

972
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:07,750
reactor going how we going on that one

973
00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:09,490
is India way ahead of us on that one

974
00:40:14,010 --> 00:40:11,710
there oh well look you know we have a

975
00:40:17,070 --> 00:40:14,020
research reactor a tedster so we make

976
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:17,080
nuclear medicines and do research ah not

977
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:19,570
so concerned about power reactors like a

978
00:40:25,050 --> 00:40:21,730
for Ian reactor would seat that's the

979
00:40:26,370 --> 00:40:25,060
right question see and but we do produce

980
00:40:27,930 --> 00:40:26,380
you know eighty-five percent of the

981
00:40:29,610 --> 00:40:27,940
country's nuclear medicine so these are

982
00:40:31,770 --> 00:40:29,620
medicines you would take you're going to

983
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:31,780
have a scan to detect cancel any other

984
00:40:36,750 --> 00:40:34,480
disease so you know it's a very very

985
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:36,760
important facility to have and in terms

986
00:40:42,060 --> 00:40:39,970
of research you know we produce neutrons

987
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:42,070
out of our reactor and use those

988
00:40:45,940 --> 00:40:44,170
neutrons understand the atomic structure

989
00:40:48,550 --> 00:40:45,950
of all sorts of materials

990
00:40:50,829 --> 00:40:48,560
so we have about 300 scientists working

991
00:40:53,319 --> 00:40:50,839
there that in that particular field so

992
00:40:54,460 --> 00:40:53,329
now is a tough question particularly for

993
00:40:56,770 --> 00:40:54,470
someone in the field what's your

994
00:40:58,180 --> 00:40:56,780
favorite element I'm appear on the bit

995
00:41:00,460 --> 00:40:58,190
on the periodic table when you're

996
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:00,470
looking at it you go man that just blows

997
00:41:05,950 --> 00:41:04,490
my mind oh well I already claimed mine

998
00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:05,960
and Mira conium I like it because the

999
00:41:09,370 --> 00:41:07,730
things were very bold of them to name it

1000
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:09,380
after the country quite selfish of them

1001
00:41:12,579 --> 00:41:10,880
but still just the same not about it i'm

1002
00:41:16,660 --> 00:41:12,589
going to give you a marketing answer

1003
00:41:19,420 --> 00:41:16,670
here so why ANSTO radiates about thirty

1004
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:19,430
percent of the world's silicon so i'm

1005
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:21,170
going to say silicon there's my favorite

1006
00:41:26,829 --> 00:41:24,530
elements and some the silicon is a step

1007
00:41:30,339 --> 00:41:26,839
in the production of silicon chips and

1008
00:41:32,349 --> 00:41:30,349
about everything yes yeah yes yeah yeah

1009
00:41:36,190 --> 00:41:32,359
there's nothing to shove the summon beer

1010
00:41:37,390 --> 00:41:36,200
as well well I hope so I hope so one my

1011
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:37,400
favorite look I hope you're gonna go

1012
00:41:40,270 --> 00:41:38,690
well here and what are the kids mainly

1013
00:41:41,770 --> 00:41:40,280
get up to the that you take a photo of

1014
00:41:43,630 --> 00:41:41,780
them in the lab and they do that it's

1015
00:41:46,180 --> 00:41:43,640
not you guys haven't you come and have a

1016
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:46,190
go so lots of different tell liquids now

1017
00:41:49,750 --> 00:41:47,450
are any of these normally available

1018
00:41:51,819 --> 00:41:49,760
after ten o'clock at a pub for example

1019
00:41:53,170 --> 00:41:51,829
is any this of still available in Kings

1020
00:41:55,420 --> 00:41:53,180
Cross which must have stuff being baby

1021
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:55,430
now I think I'll a to the supermarkets

1022
00:41:59,710 --> 00:41:57,770
so food coloring right I've always been

1023
00:42:01,150 --> 00:41:59,720
I know that the red stuff makes you run

1024
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:01,160
around like a nut if you have some but

1025
00:42:04,569 --> 00:42:02,810
but the blue stuff really washes your

1026
00:42:07,450 --> 00:42:04,579
hands get rid of 90 understand the germs

1027
00:42:08,890 --> 00:42:07,460
here well I don't know about that so if

1028
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:08,900
you put some of that blue stuff on your

1029
00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:10,970
hands you can have blue hands for a few

1030
00:42:15,550 --> 00:42:14,089
days it looks pretty cool like this

1031
00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:15,560
looks like there's some genuine science

1032
00:42:19,569 --> 00:42:17,569
about to go on here all about cool thing

1033
00:42:22,930 --> 00:42:19,579
about this is you're going to get photos

1034
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:22,940
and so we are going to say Richard put

1035
00:42:29,140 --> 00:42:25,690
this on your arm skeptics facebook site

1036
00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:29,150
and cook until now so I Twitter them as

1037
00:42:32,319 --> 00:42:30,710
well they would like to know what's the

1038
00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:32,329
website for you guys so we can find out

1039
00:42:35,589 --> 00:42:34,160
more about you and get to the get to the

1040
00:42:38,050 --> 00:42:35,599
bottom of that thorium issue that I've

1041
00:42:39,130 --> 00:42:38,060
been discussing well you can have a look

1042
00:42:43,780 --> 00:42:39,140
at all the other things that we're

1043
00:42:48,309 --> 00:42:43,790
working on so it is it is wwan co which

1044
00:42:50,380 --> 00:42:48,319
is a in st oak ave you and you ever take

1045
00:42:53,319 --> 00:42:50,390
guided tours through lucas lucas heights

1046
00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:53,329
guided tours every second saturday for

1047
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:55,609
the general public and most days during

1048
00:42:59,890 --> 00:42:57,650
the school holidays as well too

1049
00:43:02,380 --> 00:42:59,900
so two and a half hour tour it's free

1050
00:43:04,269 --> 00:43:02,390
we'll show you our reactor will show you

1051
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:04,279
our major scientific facilities we've

1052
00:43:08,170 --> 00:43:05,510
got other things like particle

1053
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:08,180
accelerators there as well two different

1054
00:43:12,099 --> 00:43:10,250
environmental labs so we'll give you a

1055
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:12,109
good look around the site and also tell

1056
00:43:15,579 --> 00:43:13,970
you all the amazing stuff that we do out

1057
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:15,589
there right thanks a lot thank you very

1058
00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:18,170
much but we're just seeing over in the

1059
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:19,520
background there Richard Saunders is

1060
00:43:23,319 --> 00:43:21,770
doing his stuff he's bending spoons he's

1061
00:43:25,420 --> 00:43:23,329
making people find water what's your

1062
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:25,430
name Michelle and what did Richard

1063
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:27,770
Saunders have you do then he just gave

1064
00:43:32,980 --> 00:43:29,930
me a divining rod went and hit some

1065
00:43:34,210 --> 00:43:32,990
water whilst I was not looking to get me

1066
00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:34,220
to see if I could find the water with

1067
00:43:39,549 --> 00:43:36,400
the divining rod and how did you go I

1068
00:43:42,490 --> 00:43:39,559
didn't quite make it no I was just one

1069
00:43:44,380 --> 00:43:42,500
box away but yeah I went with the way it

1070
00:43:45,940 --> 00:43:44,390
was pointing and it was definitely not

1071
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:45,950
pointing for the water so for a moment

1072
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:47,839
there you'd already spent that $10,000

1073
00:43:52,900 --> 00:43:50,690
you could have one no actually i'm i'm

1074
00:43:56,769 --> 00:43:52,910
actually a regular follow of the

1075
00:43:59,890 --> 00:43:56,779
skeptics sign so I was actually already

1076
00:44:01,450 --> 00:43:59,900
pretty skeptical about it anyway okay so

1077
00:44:03,339 --> 00:44:01,460
what you were doing could have been an

1078
00:44:05,019 --> 00:44:03,349
example of cognitive dissonance maybe Oh

1079
00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:05,029
perhaps yeah maybe actually there is

1080
00:44:11,410 --> 00:44:07,150
avani but you didn't want it to happen

1081
00:44:13,210 --> 00:44:11,420
exactly my power of mind over ruled it

1082
00:44:14,980 --> 00:44:13,220
also yes I'm asking everyone tonight

1083
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:14,990
because it's been a bit of space here

1084
00:44:20,890 --> 00:44:16,910
tonight what's your favorite space TV

1085
00:44:23,289 --> 00:44:20,900
show or movie it simply go oh my gosh um

1086
00:44:25,499 --> 00:44:23,299
I'm not necessarily meaning a realistic

1087
00:44:28,379 --> 00:44:25,509
one just one you like

1088
00:44:30,029 --> 00:44:28,389
oh god now you put me on the spot I'm

1089
00:44:32,069 --> 00:44:30,039
almost a big fan of anything of the work

1090
00:44:34,319 --> 00:44:32,079
of Shatner involved in it but of course

1091
00:44:36,299 --> 00:44:34,329
there's not a see if it came to books

1092
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:36,309
out probably you know about sleep

1093
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:39,609
douglas adams and Hitchhiker's Guide so

1094
00:44:45,479 --> 00:44:42,729
much volume which volume um actually the

1095
00:44:47,909 --> 00:44:45,489
first one is it's an and actually the

1096
00:44:50,729 --> 00:44:47,919
first two I really enjoyed the most I

1097
00:44:53,189 --> 00:44:50,739
think so the Dirk Gently detective

1098
00:44:54,959 --> 00:44:53,199
agency oh I actually I have to invoke

1099
00:44:58,319 --> 00:44:54,969
bookshelf but I've still yet to read it

1100
00:44:59,399 --> 00:44:58,329
so yeah I was lucky enough to meet him

1101
00:45:01,559 --> 00:44:59,409
once and interview him and he was a

1102
00:45:03,389 --> 00:45:01,569
lovely man and online if you search

1103
00:45:04,979 --> 00:45:03,399
Maynard and Douglas animals I don't that

1104
00:45:06,299 --> 00:45:04,989
one-hour interview with him oh that

1105
00:45:07,649 --> 00:45:06,309
would be amazing i look forward to

1106
00:45:09,689 --> 00:45:07,659
listening to it he was just the wildest

1107
00:45:11,639 --> 00:45:09,699
guy hey thank you for helping us here

1108
00:45:14,009 --> 00:45:11,649
tonight no thank you Reynard is they're

1109
00:45:15,689 --> 00:45:14,019
lovely to meet you good science wig here

1110
00:45:16,949 --> 00:45:15,699
at the powerhouse as I said and Hoover

1111
00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:16,959
got here what have you got a degree in

1112
00:45:22,589 --> 00:45:20,169
sir hello my name is Boyan I actually

1113
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:22,599
have a degree in physics but I'm here to

1114
00:45:27,179 --> 00:45:24,130
talk about biology I'm here to talk

1115
00:45:28,469 --> 00:45:27,189
about elbow biofuels oh and how has it

1116
00:45:32,639 --> 00:45:28,479
been going so far what have people been

1117
00:45:34,889 --> 00:45:32,649
asking you very interesting questions

1118
00:45:36,989 --> 00:45:34,899
actually a lot about the future

1119
00:45:39,419 --> 00:45:36,999
potential for getting sustainable energy

1120
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:39,429
in Australia so you know how much how

1121
00:45:44,129 --> 00:45:42,130
much space will we need to how much

1122
00:45:46,169 --> 00:45:44,139
space do we need to grow algae in order

1123
00:45:48,479 --> 00:45:46,179
to satisfy the energy requirements of

1124
00:45:50,399 --> 00:45:48,489
the country what are the advantages of

1125
00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:50,409
algae against traditional fuels like

1126
00:45:54,479 --> 00:45:52,569
crude oil so yeah it's been very

1127
00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:54,489
interesting so far and and if we were to

1128
00:45:57,899 --> 00:45:56,319
do it on a commercial scale what would

1129
00:45:59,909 --> 00:45:57,909
you have to do would you take over very

1130
00:46:01,620 --> 00:45:59,919
large area or would it be very how would

1131
00:46:04,529 --> 00:46:01,630
you do what would it look like a LG

1132
00:46:06,929 --> 00:46:04,539
factory it would it look quite

1133
00:46:10,229 --> 00:46:06,939
agriculture actually would be an you

1134
00:46:12,089 --> 00:46:10,239
would have salt water ponds on marginal

1135
00:46:14,519 --> 00:46:12,099
land so it can be desert it doesn't have

1136
00:46:16,829 --> 00:46:14,529
to be agricultural land and what you

1137
00:46:19,229 --> 00:46:16,839
would do is you choose a coastal region

1138
00:46:20,519 --> 00:46:19,239
and you dig up our groupons you'd fill

1139
00:46:21,479 --> 00:46:20,529
it with salt water and then you put

1140
00:46:23,849 --> 00:46:21,489
yourselves in there and they would just

1141
00:46:27,689 --> 00:46:23,859
grow and they use satellite to grow so

1142
00:46:31,799 --> 00:46:27,699
you and some minimal nutrients and you

1143
00:46:33,359 --> 00:46:31,809
need to satisfy the the crude oil demand

1144
00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:33,369
for Australia you'd need an area

1145
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:35,520
approximately the size of Sydney

1146
00:46:38,510 --> 00:46:37,290
okay and that could be some area that's

1147
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:38,520
not being used for anything else at the

1148
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:40,650
moment exactly it could be a desert

1149
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:44,400
region okay and what sort of what what's

1150
00:46:47,660 --> 00:46:45,930
been the largest scale production

1151
00:46:50,900 --> 00:46:47,670
distance gone on so far anywhere in the

1152
00:46:53,420 --> 00:46:50,910
world it's it's happening in the States

1153
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:53,430
at the moment it's a new mexico and

1154
00:46:56,900 --> 00:46:54,960
they're looking at about 400 hectares

1155
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:56,910
they're scaling up to about 400 hectares

1156
00:47:01,370 --> 00:46:59,520
at the moment okay and is it easy to

1157
00:47:03,260 --> 00:47:01,380
explain in layman's terms how you get it

1158
00:47:06,740 --> 00:47:03,270
from being the algae in the water to

1159
00:47:08,930 --> 00:47:06,750
being able to be a fuel in your car it

1160
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:08,940
it's it's easy to explain it's a bit

1161
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:12,570
harder to do and what you do is you need

1162
00:47:15,770 --> 00:47:14,490
to extract the algae from the water so

1163
00:47:18,260 --> 00:47:15,780
the algal cells are growing in

1164
00:47:20,270 --> 00:47:18,270
suspension in the water you need to pull

1165
00:47:21,860 --> 00:47:20,280
them out but then you need to squash

1166
00:47:23,690 --> 00:47:21,870
them to get the oils out of them and

1167
00:47:27,530 --> 00:47:23,700
eventually you need to chemically

1168
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:27,540
convert those oils into fuels and the

1169
00:47:32,810 --> 00:47:29,490
oil is quite combustible is that correct

1170
00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:32,820
that's correct yes it's it's essentially

1171
00:47:37,430 --> 00:47:35,730
an analog for crude oil so once you get

1172
00:47:39,770 --> 00:47:37,440
yours out of the cells you send them to

1173
00:47:42,350 --> 00:47:39,780
a refinery and you process them the same

1174
00:47:43,370 --> 00:47:42,360
way as a traditional fuel and the reason

1175
00:47:44,750 --> 00:47:43,380
no one's doing this at the moment is

1176
00:47:46,130 --> 00:47:44,760
because there's quite a steep curve to

1177
00:47:47,570 --> 00:47:46,140
get it to the commercial level and no

1178
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:47,580
one's willing to risk that is that what

1179
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:49,290
it is that's exactly what it is it's a

1180
00:47:52,940 --> 00:47:51,090
question of scale so we work at the

1181
00:47:56,090 --> 00:47:52,950
laboratory scale at the moment a few

1182
00:47:58,670 --> 00:47:56,100
liters we need to get to the size of

1183
00:48:00,320 --> 00:47:58,680
Sydney and the question is when you go

1184
00:48:02,420 --> 00:48:00,330
to a pilot scale of a few thousand

1185
00:48:03,740 --> 00:48:02,430
liters who's going to invest in that

1186
00:48:05,780 --> 00:48:03,750
who's going to take that risk because

1187
00:48:08,090 --> 00:48:05,790
you you're not producing very much fuel

1188
00:48:10,340 --> 00:48:08,100
but you have significant construction

1189
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:10,350
costs so somebody needs to take that

1190
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:13,410
risk and so it's combustible as petrol

1191
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:14,970
or diesel what sort of fuel you're

1192
00:48:20,420 --> 00:48:18,210
talking about all right so you would you

1193
00:48:21,830 --> 00:48:20,430
get crude oil and you separate the oil

1194
00:48:23,990 --> 00:48:21,840
into fractions you there would be a

1195
00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:24,000
diesel fraction a petrol fraction also

1196
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:26,910
jet fuel fraction elements that you

1197
00:48:32,270 --> 00:48:29,250
could use to make plastics so you get

1198
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:32,280
the whole spectrum of fuels so you just

1199
00:48:35,420 --> 00:48:34,050
opened up my eyes to a whole new world I

1200
00:48:37,370 --> 00:48:35,430
didn't know existed I didn't know it was

1201
00:48:39,050 --> 00:48:37,380
completely replaceable for hydrocarbons

1202
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:39,060
that's amazing well I'm glad to hear

1203
00:48:43,610 --> 00:48:40,410
okay thank you very much have a good

1204
00:48:45,070 --> 00:48:43,620
night thank you look Luke we've got

1205
00:48:46,820 --> 00:48:45,080
three people here have just been

1206
00:48:48,859 --> 00:48:46,830
experiencing the Chris Hadfield

1207
00:48:51,049 --> 00:48:48,869
experience on stage what's it been like

1208
00:48:55,009 --> 00:48:51,059
oh it's being very fascinating actually

1209
00:48:56,329 --> 00:48:55,019
at it's great to hear all the little

1210
00:48:58,670 --> 00:48:56,339
things that you might be thinking about

1211
00:49:01,009 --> 00:48:58,680
in space that with it we don't know the

1212
00:49:02,599 --> 00:49:01,019
answers to and he's just been telling us

1213
00:49:03,739 --> 00:49:02,609
everything so that was one thing you

1214
00:49:09,019 --> 00:49:03,749
might have learned there that you gone

1215
00:49:10,430 --> 00:49:09,029
Wow um oh I've learned a few things and

1216
00:49:12,140 --> 00:49:10,440
now you've asked me that question and

1217
00:49:14,210 --> 00:49:12,150
it's popped out in my mind what did you

1218
00:49:15,890 --> 00:49:14,220
learn yeah what do you find out from his

1219
00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:15,900
space experience he thought gee I would

1220
00:49:21,079 --> 00:49:19,200
never thought that I actually really

1221
00:49:22,460 --> 00:49:21,089
hadn't considered how rough the landing

1222
00:49:24,380 --> 00:49:22,470
would be coming in because you sort of

1223
00:49:26,569 --> 00:49:24,390
you see that the shots of it and doesn't

1224
00:49:28,849 --> 00:49:26,579
always look that rough looks fairly

1225
00:49:31,309 --> 00:49:28,859
smooth I'd realized how jostle they get

1226
00:49:32,900 --> 00:49:31,319
not really quite surprised me yeah and

1227
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:32,910
he gets rolled around before it comes to

1228
00:49:36,049 --> 00:49:34,650
stop yeah I thought that was amazing i

1229
00:49:37,339 --> 00:49:36,059
did like that he got an apple at the end

1230
00:49:38,900 --> 00:49:37,349
of her thought that was quite funny yeah

1231
00:49:40,849 --> 00:49:38,910
i like the fact that he could actually

1232
00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:40,859
feel the weight of his own tongue once a

1233
00:49:44,900 --> 00:49:42,990
gravity came back yeah that's right that

1234
00:49:46,549 --> 00:49:44,910
seemed to be it weird to me like you

1235
00:49:48,589 --> 00:49:46,559
would always think that you could feel

1236
00:49:50,089 --> 00:49:48,599
that it yeah you think you may be your

1237
00:49:52,420 --> 00:49:50,099
arm or your head or something but your

1238
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:52,430
tongue yeah yeah that was a bit strange

1239
00:49:57,499 --> 00:49:54,890
how'd you find his presentation on stage

1240
00:50:00,109 --> 00:49:57,509
he's a fantastic speaker i really

1241
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:00,119
enjoyed listening to him and is it one

1242
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:03,119
fact that stuck out i think perhaps

1243
00:50:08,779 --> 00:50:05,130
there is magic thing that he brought up

1244
00:50:10,609 --> 00:50:08,789
was describing that moment just hanging

1245
00:50:12,049 --> 00:50:10,619
off the space station told to hang in

1246
00:50:14,299 --> 00:50:12,059
there for a few minutes and just letting

1247
00:50:16,999 --> 00:50:14,309
go and just the impact of that moment is

1248
00:50:19,099 --> 00:50:17,009
amazing what about when he was actually

1249
00:50:20,509 --> 00:50:19,109
in the Southern Lights he wasn't looking

1250
00:50:22,940 --> 00:50:20,519
at the Southern Lights it was part of

1251
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:22,950
the Southern Lights yeah that not

1252
00:50:26,989 --> 00:50:24,569
something you'd ever think about better

1253
00:50:28,849 --> 00:50:26,999
yeah it'd be off his shoes and all that

1254
00:50:30,890 --> 00:50:28,859
sort of thing yeah it's just amazing it

1255
00:50:32,900 --> 00:50:30,900
would be such an experience made me very

1256
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:32,910
jealous yeah of course say he's gonna do

1257
00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:34,650
the question section next what is one

1258
00:50:38,660 --> 00:50:36,089
question you would ask him if you gotta

1259
00:50:41,839 --> 00:50:38,670
go up there we were just discussing that

1260
00:50:44,660 --> 00:50:41,849
before and um I don't know just like the

1261
00:50:46,430 --> 00:50:44,670
little things about I think you were

1262
00:50:48,979 --> 00:50:46,440
saying something about what would you do

1263
00:50:51,140 --> 00:50:48,989
if you vomited in space well the thing

1264
00:50:52,940 --> 00:50:51,150
that I would like to ask him and they

1265
00:50:54,410 --> 00:50:52,950
say around NASA at around you know that

1266
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:54,420
you're not really national until you've

1267
00:50:59,690 --> 00:50:56,490
actually used the space toilet inspire

1268
00:51:03,470 --> 00:50:59,700
and I'd like to ask him really is that

1269
00:51:04,490 --> 00:51:03,480
difficult to use yeah I I want to know

1270
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:04,500
but I don't really want to think about

1271
00:51:08,450 --> 00:51:06,810
it yeah yeah it's an interesting fact

1272
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:08,460
but not at this time of night yeah what

1273
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:10,890
what do you think you'd ask him oh I

1274
00:51:14,330 --> 00:51:12,450
think I need a little longer to process

1275
00:51:18,290 --> 00:51:14,340
everything you said before I can come up

1276
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:18,300
with a sensible question yeah look thank

1277
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:24,570
you and enjoy your night we're shown in

1278
00:51:29,510 --> 00:51:26,850
cell culture that that's the voice of

1279
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:29,520
dr. rachy there she is talking to yet

1280
00:51:33,890 --> 00:51:31,650
another potential science graduate about

1281
00:51:36,470 --> 00:51:33,900
the work that she does I don't

1282
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:36,480
understand it myself but they appear

1283
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:39,810
interested but John head down here John

1284
00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:41,850
hey going it has dr. Bochy bingo Mia

1285
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:43,110
she's been fielding a few interesting

1286
00:51:47,210 --> 00:51:45,690
questions yeah I haven't been playing

1287
00:51:48,830 --> 00:51:47,220
too much close attention but she's

1288
00:51:50,930 --> 00:51:48,840
definitely had some interesting or

1289
00:51:52,490 --> 00:51:50,940
interested parties coming along and

1290
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:52,500
asking her questions about her research

1291
00:51:56,359 --> 00:51:54,090
I like the way that she can demonstrate

1292
00:51:59,930 --> 00:51:56,369
the entire life cycle of any type of

1293
00:52:01,670 --> 00:51:59,940
algae through mime yes it has no bit of

1294
00:52:04,970 --> 00:52:01,680
dance it's fascinating you think

1295
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:04,980
microbial life form how would you how

1296
00:52:08,900 --> 00:52:06,690
did you express that in mind well she

1297
00:52:11,210 --> 00:52:08,910
found a way she becomes it she becomes a

1298
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:11,220
microbial life form and we've been

1299
00:52:15,020 --> 00:52:13,050
asking a few people of because we're

1300
00:52:18,050 --> 00:52:15,030
about space here tonight what is your

1301
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:18,060
favorite space movie or TV thing of all

1302
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:20,640
time and again as I'm telling people not

1303
00:52:27,109 --> 00:52:23,010
necessarily accurate I mean what is your

1304
00:52:29,810 --> 00:52:27,119
favorite one I think space 1999 martin

1305
00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:29,820
landau and where are our skivvies we are

1306
00:52:34,250 --> 00:52:32,400
like what 15 years past that now and we

1307
00:52:36,170 --> 00:52:34,260
haven't got any decent outfits like were

1308
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:36,180
designed by Sylvia Anderson for that out

1309
00:52:38,430 --> 00:52:38,010
for that show we don't even have a moon

1310
00:52:40,349 --> 00:52:38,440
pie

1311
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:40,359
what the hell yeah look if I were you

1312
00:52:43,470 --> 00:52:41,770
listener I would stop this right now

1313
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:43,480
then go to youtube and just have a look

1314
00:52:49,079 --> 00:52:47,050
at the intro to space 1999 it's got one

1315
00:52:52,020 --> 00:52:49,089
of the funkiest themes of all time

1316
00:52:54,900 --> 00:52:52,030
hasn't it indeed it does he focused look

1317
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:54,910
at your check it's beyond any porn film

1318
00:52:58,730 --> 00:52:56,530
music ever gonna hear it's just

1319
00:53:01,530 --> 00:52:58,740
fantastic there's one show that I

1320
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:01,540
happened upon recently it's called UFO

1321
00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:04,569
oh and another one another Gerry

1322
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:06,400
Anderson one where he's directing actors

1323
00:53:09,690 --> 00:53:07,810
but the good thing is they actually can

1324
00:53:11,849 --> 00:53:09,700
act they look like puppets it's an

1325
00:53:14,730 --> 00:53:11,859
amazing show up on YouTube it's

1326
00:53:17,490 --> 00:53:14,740
fantastic it features a daisy wheel

1327
00:53:20,339 --> 00:53:17,500
printer in the intro and it's set in the

1328
00:53:21,630 --> 00:53:20,349
futuristic year of 1984 and the great

1329
00:53:23,970 --> 00:53:21,640
thing is that I've got a jean paul

1330
00:53:25,950 --> 00:53:23,980
gaultier suit from 1990 that is

1331
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:25,960
identical to what ed striker used to

1332
00:53:31,530 --> 00:53:29,170
wear and in UFO 984 it is a great show

1333
00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:31,540
some great costumes and I love love the

1334
00:53:35,490 --> 00:53:33,280
way when they're they're going off to

1335
00:53:37,410 --> 00:53:35,500
shoot the aliens and their their little

1336
00:53:40,290 --> 00:53:37,420
rocket ships they just dive into those

1337
00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:40,300
tubes it's amazing and the moonbase

1338
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:42,880
girls with the purple wigs yes oh yes

1339
00:53:47,190 --> 00:53:45,010
not only do you have to wear a miniskirt

1340
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:47,200
on the moon base as part of your uniform

1341
00:53:51,930 --> 00:53:49,450
let's just make it really sexist and

1342
00:53:54,900 --> 00:53:51,940
force you to wear purple wigs yes yes

1343
00:53:57,690 --> 00:53:54,910
until then well no because everyone

1344
00:54:00,059 --> 00:53:57,700
knows that 60s go-go dancers is the

1345
00:54:02,180 --> 00:54:00,069
exact outfit you'd want on the moon is

1346
00:54:05,359 --> 00:54:02,190
why this is why I think we should have a

1347
00:54:08,130 --> 00:54:05,369
moon base I mean then we'd have 60s

1348
00:54:10,589 --> 00:54:08,140
classes that's very good your logic is

1349
00:54:10,589 --> 00:54:10,599
infallible

1350
00:54:15,390 --> 00:54:12,839
that's great that's going on now I'm

1351
00:54:29,220 --> 00:54:15,400
glad I bet someone 1999 check out those

1352
00:54:29,230 --> 00:54:37,350
in a world where the truth is a battle

1353
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:45,339
your messages are a seat for beyond

1354
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:51,079
and reason is sidelined for magical sync

1355
00:54:56,939 --> 00:54:54,339
only three men stand between the truth

1356
00:55:00,699 --> 00:54:56,949
temples and modernist

1357
00:55:02,409 --> 00:55:00,709
what date is it 787 thing this is

1358
00:55:04,059 --> 00:55:02,419
impressive if these are system present

1359
00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:04,069
they're not their photographs of Chinese

1360
00:55:09,189 --> 00:55:06,910
anthem it's not we are not well received

1361
00:55:10,839 --> 00:55:09,199
good god we're fully don't discuss

1362
00:55:12,729 --> 00:55:10,849
cryptozoology on the show very often

1363
00:55:15,249 --> 00:55:12,739
because we don't know anything about how

1364
00:55:17,289 --> 00:55:15,259
the truth the price gets lower lower

1365
00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:17,299
lower and then he hits the ceiling it's

1366
00:55:23,439 --> 00:55:21,529
a ceiling for the room below for skeptic

1367
00:55:37,450 --> 00:55:23,449
to the cave and Moses has gifted society

1368
00:55:41,510 --> 00:55:39,740
thank you for listening to the skeptic

1369
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:41,520
zone now some information about the

1370
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:43,050
upcoming Australian skeptics National

1371
00:55:49,809 --> 00:55:46,410
Convention and new information released

1372
00:55:54,530 --> 00:55:49,819
by Australian skeptics we got some new

1373
00:55:57,140 --> 00:55:54,540
guests to announce and the blurb says in

1374
00:55:59,569 --> 00:55:57,150
a special consumer affairs discussion

1375
00:56:01,160 --> 00:55:59,579
panel the 30th National Australian

1376
00:56:03,980 --> 00:56:01,170
skeptics convention will feature three

1377
00:56:07,030 --> 00:56:03,990
entertainers from the ABC satirical

1378
00:56:10,670 --> 00:56:07,040
programs that check out and the chaser

1379
00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:10,680
Julian mauro kristen Drysdale and Chaz

1380
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:12,960
leach adela are known for their fearless

1381
00:56:18,799 --> 00:56:15,410
attacks on ignorance and double-dealing

1382
00:56:22,460 --> 00:56:18,809
wherever it might be politicians shonky

1383
00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:22,470
services or pseudoscience they will be

1384
00:56:26,900 --> 00:56:24,000
joined by two leading figures in

1385
00:56:29,180 --> 00:56:26,910
consumer protection in Australia Delia

1386
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:29,190
Rickard Deputy Chair of the Australian

1387
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:31,410
Competition and Consumer Commission a

1388
00:56:39,339 --> 00:56:35,970
Triple C and Alan Kirkland CEO of choice

1389
00:56:41,870 --> 00:56:39,349
magazine fantastic some really great

1390
00:56:44,180 --> 00:56:41,880
guests coming up are for the Asturian

1391
00:56:48,349 --> 00:56:44,190
skeptics National Convention for more

1392
00:56:50,660 --> 00:56:48,359
information go to ww convention skeptics

1393
00:56:53,630 --> 00:56:50,670
Comte you or skeptics calm today you

1394
00:56:56,390 --> 00:56:53,640
check it out now's the time to buy your

1395
00:56:57,829 --> 00:56:56,400
ticket secure your place it's going to

1396
00:56:59,569 --> 00:56:57,839
be a great convention one of the biggest

1397
00:57:01,670 --> 00:56:59,579
ones in this country for some years

1398
00:57:04,309 --> 00:57:01,680
can't wait to see the skeptics guide to

1399
00:57:07,130 --> 00:57:04,319
the universe gang George rub Sonya

1400
00:57:09,470 --> 00:57:07,140
Pemberton is also coming along a dr.

1401
00:57:12,319 --> 00:57:09,480
Carl dr. Cole worth the price of

1402
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:12,329
admission alone can't wait for that see

1403
00:57:18,260 --> 00:57:14,250
you there at the end of november in

1404
00:57:20,539 --> 00:57:18,270
chatswood here in sydney but for now but

1405
00:57:22,250 --> 00:57:20,549
for this week I think I'll run

1406
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:22,260
downstairs and finish off that couscous

1407
00:57:28,749 --> 00:57:24,960
a tuna this is Richard Saunders signing

1408
00:57:36,170 --> 00:57:31,160
you've been listening to the skeptic

1409
00:57:39,949 --> 00:57:36,180
zone visit our website at www skeptics